soc.culture.china

On Aug 29, 7:44 pm, bmo...@ wrote:
> On Aug 29, 3:17 pm, Dragon wrote:
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> > On Aug 29, 12:43?pm, bmo...@ wrote:
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> > > On Aug 29, 11:58 am, Dragon wrote:
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> > > > On Aug 29, 11:23?am, bmo...@ wrote:
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> > > > > On Aug 29, 11:13 am, Dragon wrote:
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> > > > > > On Aug 29, 11:01?am, bmo...@ wrote:
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> > > > > > > On Aug 29, 10:06 am, "ltl...@ " wrote:
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> > > > > > > > On Aug 29, 12:44 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > On a sunny day (Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:24:48 -0700) it happened
> > > > > > > > > "ltl...@ " wrote in
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> > > > > > > > > >Of course, the above does not mean China did not fight wars. They did
> > > > > > > > > >and
> > > > > > > > > >they will do that. But they don't go out to fight war for terroritory
> > > > > > > > > >or for self-
> > > > > > > > > >aggrandizement.
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> > > > > > > > > Tibet, threats to Taiwan.
> > > > > > > > > You are dreaming.
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> > > > > > > > Nah. You are seeing things. Both Taiwan and Tibet was recognized as
> > > > > > > > part of China long times ago.
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> > > > > > > It's not that simple, and you know it. But you refuse to admit it. You
> > > > > > > repeat yourself over and over again, or quote some long article from
> > > > > > > the Western press. One thing you don't do, ever, is make a good case
> > > > > > > for your assertions.
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> > > > > > > > > Most history books have been doctored, so the winner was the good guy.
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> > > > > > > > If you know more about Chinese history and how the bronze incriptions
> > > > > > > > were doctored, please inform.
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> > > > > > > More avoidance of the topic. Are you implying that the history books
> > > > > > > in China are all on the up and up, no distortion at all? Riiiight.
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> > > > > > > Once again, you pretend you are advancing discussion but you are not.
> > > > > > > End of story.
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> > > > > > Alright, Mr. Know-All ! Prove that the history books you read were not
> > > > > > doctored, and that everything you quote is the truth and nothing but
> > > > > > the truth.
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> > > > > Sigh. You are getting defensive. LT Lee challenged the assertion that
> > > > > Chinese history books are distorted. He is wrong. They are distorted.
> > > > > I didn't say other history books *weren't* distorted. I hope you are
> > > > > smart enough to understand the difference.
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> > > > > If you want to defend China that is fine. But I caution against
> > > > > defending LT Lee. His defense of China is often irrational and
> > > > > deceptive.
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> > > > > > Let's all see what you have to say about the sovereignty of Taiwan and
> > > > > > Tibet.
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> > > > > These are not a simple issues.
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> > > > > But why are you so interested in my opinion?
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> > > > Do you think the Jews have the right to occupy Palestine and the
> > > > surrounding places to declare them as the state of Israel?
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> > > I support the right of Israel to exist. I also support the rights of
> > > the Palestinians to self-determination. This is an extremely complex
> > > issue. I will discuss it but prefer that others are familiar with the
> > > history before jumping in.
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> > I can read between the lines.
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> Well, you can use at least one English idiom. But I don't think you
> are fully able to discuss the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, at least
> not in English. Sounds like you are very impressed with yourself,
> though.
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> > You don't impress me.
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> And I don't care. You sound young and arrogant.

agree.